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We compared two 8-core processors: MediaTek Helio G85 (with Mali-G52 MP2 graphics) and Helio G80 (Mali-G52 MP2). Here you will find the pros and cons of each chip, technical specs, and comprehensive tests in benchmarks, like AnTuTu and Geekbench.

Mediatek Helio G85 Vs Snapdragon 662 Specification. Mediatek Helio G85 Vs Snapdragon 662 has an octa-core CPU. Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 CPU is 4x 2 GHz – Kryo 260 Gold (Cortex-A73) 4x 1.8 GHz – Kryo 260 Silver (Cortex-A53) and Helio G85 CPU is Octa-Core: 2x ARM Cortex-A75 up to 2.0GHz;6x ARM Cortex-A55 up to 1.8GHz; 1MB L3 cache.Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 vs Helio G85 GPU is Adreno 610. Helios 40-2 85mm f/1.5 lens The quest to add an interesting, eye-catching element to a photograph, often leads us photographers to start working with lenses that have a distinctive bokeh. One of the more affordable vintage lenses that gives a distinctive bokeh and is also a perfect portrait focal length, is the Soviet made Helios 40-2 Read more inside. Infinix will be pushing the new HOT 10S as a powerful budget-gaming smartphone. That’s the reason for the high-refresh rate panel, the huge storage option, the Helio G85 processor with a 1GHz GPU, and the extra 6GB of RAM. MediaTek Helio G85 offers a wide range of multi-camera options such as wide-angle, telescopic, macro, and sensor sizes up to 48MP. Meanwhile, the ISP design comes with additional security measures which result in making facial recognition actions like unlocking your smartphone or making digital payments fast and accurate.

General comparison of performance, power consumption, and other indicators
Single and multi-core processor tests
28
Helio g85
29
GPU performance in games and OpenCL/Vulcan
15
18
Efficiency of battery consumption
54
Helio
54
Overall chip score
31
33
Main differences and advantages of each chip
Helio

Helio G85 Vs Snapdragon 665

  • Higher GPU frequency (~5%)
Pros of MediaTek Helio G80
  • Shows better (up to 5%) AnTuTu 8 score – 205K vs 195K

Benchmarks

Performance tests in popular benchmarks
The AnTuTu Benchmark measures CPU, GPU, RAM, and I/O performance in different scenarios
195524
Helios 85mm 1.5
205309
CPU7414574423
GPU3441544670
Memory4257343475
UX4057741133
Total score195524205309
The GeekBench test shows raw single-threaded and multithreaded CPU performance
360
354
1271
1309
Table of average FPS and graphics settings in mobile games
PUBG Mobile43 FPS
[High]
30 FPS
[High]
Call of Duty: Mobile40 FPS
[Medium]
30 FPS
[Low]
Fortnite21 FPS
[Low]
27 FPS
[Low]
Shadowgun Legends49 FPS
[Low]
52 FPS
[Low]
World of Tanks Blitz51 FPS
[Medium]
53 FPS
[Medium]
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang46 FPS
[Ultra]
54 FPS
[High]
DeviceXiaomi Redmi Note 9
1080 x 2340
Realme 6i
720 x 1600
We provide average results. FPS may differ, depending on game version, OS and other factors.

Specifications

Full list of technical specifications of Helio G85 and Helio G80
Architecture2x 2 GHz – Cortex-A75
6x 1.8 GHz – Cortex-A55
2x 2 GHz – Cortex-A75
6x 1.8 GHz – Cortex-A55
Cores88
Frequency2000 MHz2000 MHz
Instruction setARMv8-AARMv8-A
Process12 nanometers12 nanometers
TDP5 W5 W
GPU nameMali-G52 MP2Mali-G52 MP2
ArchitectureBifrostBifrost
GPU frequency1000 MHz950 MHz
Execution units22
Shading units3232
FLOPS54 Gigaflops54.6 Gigaflops
Vulkan version1.01.0
OpenCL version2.02.0
DirectX version1212
Memory typeLPDDR4XLPDDR4X
Memory frequency1800 MHz1800 MHz
Bus2x 16 Bit2x 16 Bit
Max bandwidth13.41 Gbit/s13.41 Gbit/s
Max size8 GB8 GB
Neural processor (NPU)Neural EngineNeural Engine
Storage typeeMMC 5.1eMMC 5.1, UFS 2.1
Max display resolution2520 x 10802520 x 1080
Max camera resolution1x 48MP, 2x 16MP1x 48MP, 2x 16MP
Video capture2K at 30FPS2K at 30FPS
Video playback2K at 30FPS2K at 30FPS
Video codecsH.264, H.265, VP9H.264, H.265, VP9
Audio codecsAIFF, CAF, MP3, MP4, WAVAIFF, CAF, MP3, MP4, WAV
4G supportLTE Cat. 7LTE Cat. 7
5G supportNoNo
Download speedUp to 300 MbpsUp to 300 Mbps
Upload speedUp to 100 MbpsUp to 100 Mbps
Wi-Fi55
Bluetooth5.05.0
NavigationGPS, GLONASS, Beidou, GalileoGPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo
AnnouncedApril 2020February 2020
ClassMid rangeMid range
Official pageMediaTek Helio G85 official siteMediaTek Helio G80 official site
So, which SoC would you choose?
713 (36.1%)
1264 (63.9%)
Total votes: 1977
2.HiSilicon Kirin 710F and MediaTek Helio G85
4.Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 and MediaTek Helio G85
6.Samsung Exynos 9611 and MediaTek Helio G80
8.Qualcomm Snapdragon 665 and MediaTek Helio G80

Helios-40-2 85mm f1.5 lens. 2013 version

What's a Helios-40-2 you may well ask, and why should I be interested in it?

Well, to start with 'Helios' is the brand name of a line of lenses, often sold with Russian 'Zenit' cameras. They were/are made in the Krasnogorsk Mechanical Works (abbreviated as KMZ) near Moscow. The Helios model 40 lens is an 85mm f1.5 which is reported to be based on the Carl Zeiss Biotar design, which is basically a double Gauss lens. Double Gauss lenses have been used since the 1930s for fast semi-wide to short-telephoto lenses. The optical design of the Helios-40-2 (the -2 simply refers to the lens in a M42 mount rather than the original M39) is shown below:

The production dates of the Helios-40 and Helios-40-2 are a little tricky to nail down, but they were certainly made from the mid 1950s to the early 1990s. Things got a little turbulent in Russia as the Soviet Union dissolved in 1992... The lenses made during that period had a built in tripod mount. The M39 mount -40 version seems to have been made with a 'silver' finish while the -40-2 version was available in black.

Over the years the Helios-40(-2) has developed something of a cult following. It's not a sharp lens, especially when used wide open. The published MTF/resolution(?) curve shows an odd dip with the region about 10-12mm from the center of the frame being the softest The numbers aren't impressive either with a quoted center/edge resolution of 36/17 lp/mm. It's not a very convenient lens since it's fairly large and built like a tank (actually probably more like a hand grenade). It also uses a rather awkward pre-set stop down metering system with two aperture setting rings at the front of the lens and a rather narrow focusing ring near the back. It goes without saying that it's manual focus of course. In recent years it has also gotten quite expensive. 20 year ago you could probably pick up a used example for $50 or less, but more recently they have been selling for around $500 or more.

Helios 850


In this configuration, though there's a red dot next to f5.6 and a white dot lines up with f5.6 and the red dot, the lens is actually set to f1.5, Confused? Keep on reading...

Why, you may ask, would someone pay $500 for a used lens that's big, heavy, inconvenient to use and not very sharp? Well, it has this 'Bokeh' thing. Shot wide open and with the right amount of defocus on the background, the background appears to 'swirl' around the subject. Why it does this I'll speculate on later, but it's for this effect that the lens has been sought after.

In 2012, the KMZ factory announced that they were going to put the lens back into production, and they have. By all appearances it seems to be the same lens design they used in the 1950s, the only difference being that the new lenses don't have a tripod mount. Everything else seems to be the same. The mount is still M42, so it's very easy to adapt to any EOS DSLR. It's a bit trickier for Nikon shooters since a purely mechanical adapter won't give you infinity focus and an adapter with glass which allows infinity focus alters the optics a bit, so +1 for Canon here! The question is does it still have the famous 'swirly Bokeh' effect. The short answer is yes, but read on for more details.

For those who have never used a pre-set stop down lens, the aperture control may be somewhat confusing. Basically there are two aperture rings. The first one has click stops at f1.5, f2, f2.8, f4, f5.6, f8, f11, f16 and f22. Now you might think this controls the aperture, but you'd be wrong. The second aperture ring actually controls the aperture and it has no click stops. If you want to shoot at f4, you set the first ring to the click stop at f4. Then to focus (wide open) you rotate the second aperture ring all the way to the right. At this position the lens is at f1.5. Then, when you want to shoot, you rotate the second aperture ring all the way to the left and it will hit the stop with the aperture at the pre-set f4. It gets even more confusing though. with the first aperture ring set to f4, there's a red dot by the f4 and when the second ring is rotated fully to the right, the white dot on the second aperture ring lines up with the f4 marking and the white dot. However you are now at f1.5, not at f4! When you rotate the aperture ring all the way to the left, the white dot on the second aperture ring lines up with a red dot at f1.5. However you're not at f1.5, you're at f4. Confusing? I've seen people claim that their lens has the aperture marks backwards. They're not, they're just a bit confusing. When the white dot is lined up with the red dot all the way on the right means that the aperture is the same as the red dot next to the aperture scale. It's obvious isn't it?

Well, any normal lens costing $500 that gave sharpness numbers like the Helios-40-2 does wide open wouldn't get a very good review. Wide open it's a bit soft in the center and dissolves into dark astogmatic mush in the corners of a full frame image. It does sharpen up as you stop down and past around f5.6 the center is good and even the corners start to become acceptable, but that's faint praise. At f5.6 and smaller apertures just about any lens should have acceptable image quality - and if you're looking for good image quality at f5.6 there are cheaper and much more convenient options.


Helios 40-2 @ f1.5 on EOS 5D. The background 'swirl' is again evident

However you can't judge a cult lens on the basis of numbers. People don't seek out this lens because it's sharp. Rather the opposite in fact. They seek it out because it isn't sharp across the frame and it can give a unique look to portraits via the 'swirly' bokeh effect. Whether or not you like that look may be a matter of taste, but it certainly can yield images that probably couldn't be obtained with any other lens. If you like the look, this is the lens you want. You'll be shooting it wide open most of the time to get the look you want, so the awkward aperture control won't bother you much. New lenses are available through Amazon.com for around $400 (06/15). You might find a used one on eBay for less, but it will be at least 20 years old, maybe almost 60 years old. Then you have to worry about things like dust, scratches, fungus, wear and so on. With a new lens you pretty much know what you are getting.

There Helios-40-2 85mm f1.5 is available through Amazon.com

Alternatives

If you don't like the look you are lucky because you can save a little money! If you want a sharp, fast, 85mm portrait lens that will autofocus, has automatic aperture control, silent focus with full time manual override, look no further than the Canon EF 85/1.8 USM. It's a very good lens indeed and right now with the Canon rebate is available for only $359. A bargain if ever there was one.

If you want sharp, yet you still don't want to 'go mainstream', there's the Pro Optic 85mm f1.4 manual focus, manual aperture lens that I reviewed here recently. Not quite as sharp as the Canon, but faster and able to give slightly more background blur when shot wide open. If you don't need AF and auto aperture and you like the 'old school' feel of manual focus, it's an excellent buy and it's $100 or so cheaper than the Canon lens. It won't give you 'swirly bokeh' though!

If you want even more extreme bokeh, which can be controlled both in magnitude and direction and you don't mind a slower lens, there's always the Lensbaby line. Though not fast optics, they can throw the background (or edges) out of focus just by their varying sharpness across the field rather than through any shallow depth of field mechanism. Again the 'Lensbaby Look' is not something that appeals to everyone, but those who like it often seem to really love it. They can't duplicate the 'swirly' bokeh of the Helios-40 though.